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Free College Tuition Mar 29, 2008 12:18:55 GMT -5

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There was a report in my local news this morning that the Washington State legislature has opened up registration for an $8.1 mil earmark fund for the College Bound free tuition program for low income families. They predict that they'll need at least $181 mil to fully fund this program. Here are the requirements:

1. Kids need to be in the free lunch program
2. Maintain a 2.0 GPA
3. Stay out of jail

Students can apply in the 8th grade and as long as their family is still poor when they graduate high school and they meet the above qualifications, they get their free ride.

Rosemarie McAuliffe is the State Senate Chairwoman of the Education Committee.

I wrote to her today - the thread is below - but it might also interest you that Oklahoma and Indiana also have programs in place and California is adopting similar measures. As a taxpayer, I am disgusted by the extremely low standards applied to this program and believe that it discourages excellence. Typical liberal philosophy and modus operandi.

Write to your legislators today!

Ms. McAuliffe,

As a Washington State taxpayer I am VERY distressed that the College Bound Scholarship is available to students of low-income families whose academic performance is less than mediocre. The standards for qualification discourage families from climbing out of their economic situation and there is NO incentive for those who benefit from this program to do more than show up for school and stay out of jail.

What is wrong with you people! You are rewarding the WRONG behaviors! We need to do more than up the enrollment of low income students in our colleges - that's not good enough and it lowers the bar for performance not only in our primary schools but in secondary as well. If we are to do this at all, then we should only help students who show COMMITMENT to learning and who are serious about their education and future when their families lack the ability to pay for tuition. This means that students, at a minimum, need to be on the honor roll and families of those students should not be held back from achieving a better economic status on their own. Stay poor indeed!

Poor families will have to remain poor in order for their children or grandchildren to receive benefits from this program - WHY?

? This is irrational thought. In my experience, the more you give to people, the less motivated they become to HELP THEMSELVES! Have you ever raised a child?

What about the academically solid students whose parents make enough money that they don't qualify as poor but still struggle to save enough money for college? By the way, my family would fit that description - my 3 children are all committed students who work very hard to receive their 3.8 GPA but they would not be considered poor or low income. I've already explained to them that we'll have to apply for scholarships and loans and if we can help them pay off their loans after graduation, we will. What's available to us? I'm not saying I oppose this measure because I want in too, but there are many more Washingtonians in my situation than deserving students in the low income brackets - I'd wager. And to me, it's WRONG to encourage behaviors that not only keep the poor, poor and don't demand the excellence and commitment that used to be the minimum standard for any University or College.

You, in our legislature, really need to think this through. You do NOT represent US!

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harley- A 2.0 GPA

I thought that most colleges, even the community colleges required a higher GPA than a 2.0 to be qualified to enter their institution. Also, what about all the students that are paying student loans to "work their way thru college". That is most disgusting, but not unsurprising as the left has been moving us more and more to the "nanny state". Didn't even John Kerry say "study hard and do well in school, or you will wind up in Iraq"? I guess what he really meant was stay poor and you will be rewarded if you vote for us liberals

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Free College Tuition Mar 29, 2008 21:40:55 GMT -5

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When I saw the title of this thread I thought someone was pointing out a program that was proposed by Diamond Jim here in WI. It's very similar but basically is a "covenant" students make in the 8th grade to receive paid tuition at I believe the UW schools. I'll have to do some research to see if the Republican leadership gave in on it.

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D Dog

I thought the 2.0 was a mistake as well but it's not - it's a D average! Anyway, this is the sort of stuff that sits right up there with welfare and universal health care. Everyone needs to check their states legislature and find out if something is in the works like this where they live. What usually happens is that when one state succeeds at something like this, others easily follow. I'm writing to all my state senators and reps to get this repealed or at the very minimum, the bar needs to be MUCH, MUCH higher.

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harleyst96 said:

D Dog

I thought the 2.0 was a mistake as well but it's not - it's a D average!

A 2.0 is a D average?

On a scale of 1 to 4 which GPA's, usually are, this equates to a 50% average. In my book that's failing and I think even in NY state it still is. I know there was some talk about dropping a passing Regents grade down to a 60 from 65 but I'm not sure if that went through or not??

You would think something like this would be in direct conflict to NCLB, written by Ted Kennedy and signed into law by George Bush, but it does not surprise me that the libs would try to pull this off. After all it's not about what's right or wrong. It's about hating George Bush and doing anything to make a mockery of "his" policies!!

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