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Post by rinoHUNTER on Jun 18, 2008 7:20:30 GMT -5
Had to talk to my councilman concerning a local matter, and talked to a Brother in Arms about the fight for this GREAT NATION, and her Founding Principles... It afforded me a sense of renewed connective energy. I will never give up the fight, for America, the Beautiful.
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Post by rayman on Jun 18, 2008 17:13:02 GMT -5
I called Mike Duncan's office 3 times. 1 out of office, 1 in a meeting and 1 left for the day. I was transfered to "someone that would be glad to answer my questions". Hung up! I want to speak with the chairman himself but I don't see a thread for What I'm Going To Do Tomorrow........
We gotta hit them at any angle we can!
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Jun 18, 2008 18:09:12 GMT -5
Ah! I feel a new name coming on... RAYMAN THE RELENTLESS!!!
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Post by uuebmeister on Jun 19, 2008 17:21:38 GMT -5
I opened an attachment.
SBenn, seeing that I am running for a Neighborhood Council seat in the humble East end of Hollywood, offered to put together a flyer, which I'll have at a candidate's forum tonight to promote the vote for Dave!
She did an awesome job, and it's an amazing feeling to realize the support of y'all. I threw my hat in the ring instead of sitting on the sidelines thinking about it, on account of the spirit of activism of everyone here, as well as my meeting Fred and awesome Conservative Congressman to be elected, Tom McClintock.
Please keep me in your prayers tonight, and for the election on Saturday!
STRIDE STRONG!
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Post by krell on Jun 19, 2008 17:58:33 GMT -5
I opened an attachment. SBenn, seeing that I am running for a Neighborhood Council seat in the humble East end of Hollywood, offered to put together a flyer, which I'll have at a candidate's forum tonight to promote the vote for Dave! She did an awesome job, and it's an amazing feeling to realize the support of y'all. I threw my hat in the ring instead of sitting on the sidelines thinking about it, on account of the spirit of activism of everyone here, as well as my meeting Fred and awesome Conservative Congressman to be elected, Tom McClintock. Please keep me in your prayers tonight, and for the election on Saturday! STRIDE STRONG! Good luck Friend. Stand Tall, Stand Strong. You represent us also.
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Post by creationist on Jun 19, 2008 18:26:50 GMT -5
I sure will be praying, Uuebmeister!
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Post by uuebmeister on Jun 20, 2008 11:48:08 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll need it...
Interesting forum last night, good mix of candidates, and even the architect turned green-building musician acknowledged developer's rights to high density...seeing as we're near the subway and that will get people off the freeways.
And I came up with a new band name - "Fluffy White Folks" after one bleeding heart in the audience asked why there weren't more immigrants self-nominated from the Armenian, Thai, and Latin American communities in my District. One fellow candidate decried HER insulting racism, but I just pointed out that in my complex, there was also Italians!
Oh yeah, she also rambled about how we should do something about Global Warming...
Gonna be an interesting ride....
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Post by creationist on Jun 20, 2008 12:04:56 GMT -5
That was an excellent way to remind people that we are a nation of immigrants; you just said "Well I'll represent the Italians here "! What a fine way to show the silliness of affirmative action without quarreling!
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Post by uuebmeister on Jun 20, 2008 15:37:41 GMT -5
Well, and then another lady decided we weren't poor enough, because some of us were well dressed and articulate, with a few other show-biz trendsters buying into the nicer neighborhoods ranging from quaint, gentrified bungalows to outright mansions, who talk about rivalling Beverly Hills.
Seems the board hadn't taken a side in a recent pair of Propositions claiming to protect landowner's from governmental agencies from using Eminent Domain to turn land over to commercial development. One was really a front for invalidating socryears of rent control ordinances. She preferred the winning alternative, meeker in types of property protected, but not repealing rent control.
I assured her of my own long history of being a renter, including a time where I had to eke out rent from disability while recovering from a car crash.
And my Dad's family, who moved from a Irish slum in Chicago with a fair amount of low German, drove past the 'undesirable' Okie's held at the California border only because they drove by transporting someone else's new car. All those broken down trucks at lease had mattresses strapped aboard, but the Uebersax's only had what they could put in the trunk. The grey, stucco box they lived in near me now is still run down, only now the neighborhood has had several more waves of immigrants.
Sure, we can imitate the corrupt, socializing country's they've fled from, or we can show them how they can assimilate into becoming Americans!
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Post by creationist on Jun 20, 2008 22:26:33 GMT -5
At some point you may have to tell a spoiled child of the nanny-state how YOUR family made its way without government handouts . I enjoy reading those details from you!
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Post by krell on Jun 21, 2008 21:36:35 GMT -5
I received a copy of a bogus email that has started making the rounds on the Internet. I will post my reply to the person that sent it to me followed by the bogus fabricated tear-jerker:
I do not know what these people are trying to pull. If you speak with anyone that was at the Hanoi Hilton, the prisoners were segregated from one another and not allowed to speak. They ended up devising a peck and scratch morris code system to communicate between their "private" cells.
I find this article repulsive and quite disturbing as it grossly distorts the historical facts that the Hanoi Hilton prisoners told upon their return. I find it to be another stupid propaganda email that someone started without knowledge or merit.
Please write to the people that sent this to you and advise them it a very gross hoax.
Thank you,
Mark Krell
Subject: Fw: INTERESTING ARTICLE!From: Kathryn.Bowers.CTR@sofsa.milDate: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:34:41 -0400Pretty good article. I know Col Day, he lives in Ft Walton Beach and was an instructor for the Hurlburt Field branch of Troy State University while I was working on my MS. Kathryn Something to know before you vote...Subject: INTERESTING ARTICLE!By KARL ROVEApril 30, 2008; Page A17It came to me while I was having dinner with Doris Day. No, not thatDoris Day. The Doris Day who is married to Col. Bud Day,CongressionalMedal of Honor recipient, fighter pilot, Vietnam POW and roommate ofJohn McCain at the Hanoi Hilton.As we ate near the Days' home in Florida recently, I heard things aboutSen. McCainthat were deeply moving and politically troubling. Movingbecause they told me things about him the American people need to know.And troubling because it is clear that Mr. McCain is one of the mostprivate individuals to run for president in history.When it comes to choosing a president, the American people want to knowmore about a candidate than policy positions. They want to know aboutcharacter, the values ingrained in his heart. For Mr. McCain, that meansthey will want to know more about him personally than he has beenwilling to reveal.Mr. Day relayed to me one of the stories Americans should hear. Itinvolves what happened to him after escaping from a North Vietnameseprison during the war. When he was recaptured, a Vietnamese captor brokehis arm and said, 'I told you I would make you a cripple.'The break was designed to shatter Mr. Day's will. He had survived inprison on the hope that one day he would return to the United States andbe able to fly again. To kill that hope, the Vietnamese left part of abone sticking out of his arm, and put him in a misshapen cast. This wasdone so that the arm would heal at 'a goofy angle,' as Mr. Dayexplained. Had it done so, he never would have flown again.But it didn't heal that way because of John McCain. Risking severepunishment, Messrs. McCain and Day collected pieces of bamboo in theprison courtyard to use as a splint. Mr. McCain put Mr. Day on the floorof their cell and, using his foot, jerked the broken bone into place.Then, using strips from the bandage on his own wounded leg and thebamboo, he put Mr. Day's splint in place.Years later, Air Force surgeons examined Mr. Day and complemented thetreatment he'd gotten from his captors. Mr. Day corrected them. It wasDr. McCain who deserved the credit. Mr. Day went on to fly again.Another story I heard over dinner with the Days involved Mr. McCainserving as one of the three chaplains for his fellow prisoners. At onepoint, after being shuttled among different prisons, Mr. Day had foundhimself as the most senior officer at the Hanoi Hilton. So he tapped Mr.McCain to help administer religious services to the other prisoners.Today, Mr. Day, a very active 83, still vividly recalls Mr. McCain'ssermons. 'He remembered the Episcopal liturgy,' Mr. Day says, 'andsounded like a bona fide preacher.' One of Mr. McCain's first sermonstook as its text Luke 20:25 and Matthew 22:21, 'render unto Caesar whatis Caesar's and unto God what is God's.' Mr. McCain said he and hisfellow prisoners shouldn't ask God to free them, but to help them becomethe best people they could be while serving as POWs. It was Caesar whoput them in prison and Caesar who would get them out. Their task was toact with honor.Another McCain story, somewhat better known, is about the Vietnamesepractice of torturing him by tying his head between his ankles with hisarms behind him, and then leaving him for hours. The torture so badlybusted up his shoulders that to this day Mr. McCain can't raise his armsover his head.One night, a Vietnamese guard loosened his bonds, returning at the endof his watch to tighten them again so no one would notice. Shortlyafter, on Christmas Day, the same guard stood beside Mr. McCain in theprison yard and drew a cross in the sand before erasing it. Mr. McCainlater said that when he returned to Vietnam for the first time after thewar, the only person he really wanted to meet was that guard.Mr. Day recalls with pride Mr. McCain stubbornly refusing to acceptspecial treatment or curry favor to be released early, even when gravelyill. Mr. McCain knew the Vietnamese wanted the propaganda victory of theson and grandson of Navy admirals accepting special treatment. 'Hewasn't corruptible then,' Mr. Day says, 'and he's not corruptibletoday.'The stories told to me by the Days involve more than wartime valor.For example, in 1991 Cindy McCain was visiting Mother Teresa's orphanagein Bangladesh when a dying infant was thrust into her hands. Theorphanage could not provide the medical care needed to save her life, soMrs. McCain brought the child home to America with her. She was met atthe airport by her husband, who asked what all this was about.Mrs. McCain replied that the child desperately needed surgery and yearsof rehabilitation. 'I hope she can stay with us,' she told her husband.Mr. McCain agreed. Today that child is their teenage daughter Bridget.I was aware of this story. What I did not know, and what I learned fromDoris, is that there was a second infant Mrs. McCain brought back. Sheended up being adopted by a young McCain aide and his wife.'We were called at midnight by Cindy,' Wes Gullett remembers, and 'fivedays later we met our new daughter Nicki at the L.A.airport wearing theonly clothing Cindy could find on the trip back, a 7-Up T-shirt shebought in the Bangkok airport.' Today, Nicki is a high school sophomore.Mr. Gullett told me, 'I never saw a hospital bill' for her care.A few, but not many, of the stories told to me by the Days have beenwritten about, such as in Robert Timberg's 1996 book 'A Nightingale'sSong.' But Mr. McCain rarely refers to them on the campaign trail. Thereis something admirable in his reticence, but he needs to overcome it.Private people like Mr. McCain are rare in politics for a reason.Candidates who are uncomfortable sharing their interior lives limittheir appeal. But if Mr. McCain is to win the election this fall, he hasto open up.Americans need to know about his vision for the nation's future,especially his policy positions and domestic reforms. They also need tolearn about the moments in his life that shaped him. Mr. McCain cannotmake this a biography-only campaign - but he can't afford to make it abiography-free campaign either. Unless he opens up more, many voterswill never know the experiences of his life that show his character,integrity and essential decency.These qualities mattered in America's first president and will matter asAmericans decide on their 44th president.Mr. Rove is the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff toPresident George W. Bush.
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Jun 21, 2008 21:42:06 GMT -5
Got this one too, and trashed it. Also, I sent a survey reply to Senator Lamar Alexander. ;D I had to make some comment boxes of my own! There will be NO DOUBT what I, and many like me think.
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Post by krell on Jun 21, 2008 21:51:17 GMT -5
The fake story above is so horribly repulsive. I can't go any further without cussing a storm.
Here are just a couple of true Prisoner of War heros from the Viet Nam era. John McCain will never be as bold and honorable as these men.
Americans were held as prisoners of war in North Vietnam, but also in Cambodia, China, Laos, and South Vietnam.
From 1961 to 1973, the North Vietnamese and Vietcong held hundreds of Americans captive. In North Vietnam alone, more than a dozen prisons were scattered in and around the capital city of Hanoi. American POWs gave them nicknames: Alcatraz, Briarpatch, Dirty Bird, the Hanoi Hilton , the Zoo. Conditions were appalling; food was watery soup and bread. Prisoners were variously isolated (the Hilton was one of the solitary confinements), starved, beaten, torturedfor countless hoursand paraded in anti-American propaganda. "It's easy to die but hard to live," a prison guard told one new arrival, "and we'll show you just how hard it is to live."
American prisoners were held at the Hoa Lo prison, nicknamed the Hanoi Hilton from 11 August 1964 to 28 March 1973. The French built this prison near the turn of the century, with construction completed in 1901.
On a scorching hot day in 1964, Lt. Everett Alvarez was shot down over Vietnam. He was sent to the Hanoi Hilton and would not know freedom again for almost nine years, earning the dubious honor of being the longest prisoner of war in Vietnam. Battling personal demons both in the Hilton and back home, Alvarez nevertheless overcame his obstacles, earning the respect of his fellow soldiers and becoming a true Legend. Photo Courtesy: Everett Alvarez
While serving as Naval aviator during the Vietnam War, Denton was participating in a bombing mission over the Vietnamese city of Thanh Hoa, in which he was shot down and captured on July 18, 1965. He was held as a prisoner of war for almost eight years - four of which were spent in solitary confinement. Denton is best known for the 1966 North Vietnamese television interview he was forced to give as a prisoner, in which he ingeniously used the opportunity to communicate to American Intelligence. During the interview Denton blinked his eyes in morse code to spell out the word "T-O-R-T-U-R-E" to communicate that his captors were torturing him and his fellow POWs. He was also questioned about his support for the U.S. war in Vietnam, to which he replied: "I don't know what is happening now in Vietnam, because the only news sources I have are Vietnamese. But whatever the position of my government is, I believe in it, I support it, and I will support it as long as I live." For his continuous resistance and leadership, even in the face of torture and inhumane conditions, he would be awarded the Navy Cross.
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Post by krell on Jun 23, 2008 12:53:15 GMT -5
Today I invented a new word. It is:
Dilemenima:
Definition - when you have two identical left-wing candidates running in opposite parties and they both need to be flushed from the system.
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Post by creationist on Jun 23, 2008 15:25:31 GMT -5
They both should be in prison right now . It's frightening, to say the least, that so many people who believe in the Constitution and family values think that being somewhat pro-life and pro-war on terror is the lesser of two evils.
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