Be Straightforward

[creationist]

I had an interesting thought: there have been plenty of complaints about John McCain, but it'd be more effective in getting a message through to the GOP establishment to [glow=red,2,300]propose Fred[/glow], not just say McCain oughta be scrapped. Maybe some others have thought the same thing or also proposed the idea. I think a concerted effort to put forth an online petition, centered at the Thompson Coalition site, would be a good idea. This time, you don't leave the GOP guessing or wondering what alternative there might be to McCain, but you explain that Fred Thompson was the only true conservative who was a front-runner, which the polls don't dispute.

[rayman]

opengopconvetion.com

[rayman]

Mike Duncan RNC Chairman [e-mail] 1-202-863-8700

[sbenn]

rayman said:

opengopconvetion.com

I just went to www.opengopconvention.com and they are still not showing Fred on their and on results that do not show him with any votes. Something is not right about that.

Does anyone know how to contact them?

But I think a petition for Fred to be the nominee is a good idea. Let's do it!

[thompson]

Funny on that website, Fred is not listed once, even as a write in, even though I wrote him in. I tried to vote again and they give me this message:

Our records show you have already voted in this poll.

Of course there is no contact info on the pages. And the donate page says you can print the form and mail or fax in your donation.... uhm there is no fax number or address....hello?

I don't trust that site at all.

[creationist]

This is the paragraph right before the names of the people to vote for on http://www.opengopconvention.com: We're therefore running our own online preference poll to identify possible choices beyond those we've seen widely in the media, on party lists, or at the ballot box, throughout what has obviously been an elitist-engineered, virtually runaway election. (Hence we're not including familiar names like McCain, Giuliani, Thompson, Romney, Huckabee, or Paul — no matter the support that continues to exist for them. We're looking to identify someone new, generally overlooked, or not previously given a fair opportunity.)

So then I clicked on "View Results" in the voting area, and there was a write-in for "Frank Thompson", but NONE for Fred Thompson. Something seems fishy, and I don't think it tells the GOP establishment anything except that McCain has problems.

Why not write a petition that says something like this? "Due to John McCain's lifelong history of liberal actions and his refusal to even apologize for them, we request, for the good of America, that the GOP nominate Fred Thompson, who was the only completely conservative front-runner candidate."

[gammy]

Let's read this again:

www.freedomdefended.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47

Who's with me?

On this 5th anniversary of the Iraq war there are so many protests and wonderful programs such as www.operationmilitarykids.org have lost funding and support in many states. Our military does not have the backing of the American people and this is a very serious time for all of us.
We can't just sit around bickering about McCain we have got to find ways to move into action and train others to move into action.

[thompson]

[Being straightforward here, is there any other way? ;D]

No offense to anyone here, but the whole purpose of this site is to TALK. Posting here is not taking action on anything except to convey thoughts, ideas, and information.

I disagree that the military does not have the backing of the american people. I live in a state where the Marines are being protested in Berekely with the support of the city council - until there was a demonstration against this by people who support our troops enough to have a show down in public and in the city council meeting.

My son's teacher works with a local radio host to put together care packages to send to the troops on a weekly basis. I got involved in helping out straight away. The teacher had a campaign to collect unused halloween candy (thanks to an earthquake the day before, not many went out trick or treating). I put the word out in my office and with the help of some key staff, I collected enough candy to fill my trunk of my car twice and my back seat once.

Last Friday I left work for two hours, missing lunch, to help put together plastic easter eggs with candy and messages to send to the troops in Iraq.

I'm sure a lot of people are here just talking, but when we aren't online, we are acting on what we claim we believe. I do act on what I believe and don't necessarily go around talking about what I am doing.

[gwtwins]

thompson said:

[Being straightforward here, is there any other way? ;D]

No offense to anyone here, but the whole purpose of this site is to TALK. Posting here is not taking action on anything except to convey thoughts, ideas, and information.

I disagree that the military does not have the backing of the american people. I live in a state where the Marines are being protested in Berekely with the support of the city council - until there was a demonstration against this by people who support our troops enough to have a show down in public and in the city council meeting.

My son's teacher works with a local radio host to put together care packages to send to the troops on a weekly basis. I got involved in helping out straight away. The teacher had a campaign to collect unused halloween candy (thanks to an earthquake the day before, not many went out trick or treating). I put the word out in my office and with the help of some key staff, I collected enough candy to fill my trunk of my car twice and my back seat once.

Last Friday I left work for two hours, missing lunch, to help put together plastic easter eggs with candy and messages to send to the troops in Iraq.

I'm sure a lot of people are here just talking, but when we aren't online, we are acting on what we claim we believe. I do act on what I believe and don't necessarily go around talking about what I am doing.

Thompson - You and I are both Vets! I agree with both you and Gammy about the troops. Unfortunately, I think there are more folks that don't actively support the troops such as you are doing. Even more distressing to me is that some of those that don't support the troops are in high visibility places such as the Berekely City Council. I forget where it passed but recently I believe there was legislation passed to keep armed forces recruiters out of the High schools. ROTC organizations have come under attack as well. In my opinion this is actively NOT supporting the troops!! I could be wrong about this but the left has done a good job demonizing our armed forces as has always been part of the operating orders.

What we need is some media attention and millions of folks doing what you are doing!! We need to let the other half of the country know that our half actively supports the troops and so should they!! I think what was meant behind the people getting behind the troops was the fact that those of us "back home" have not really been asked to sacrifice anything in our personal lives like happened during WWII. I'm sure some remember the cooper rationing (steel pennies) and some of the other rationing that was in effect during that war to support the troops. I don't actually remember it but my parents made sure they told me about it. The military needed more of that stuff than the civilian population and the civilians were glad to give it up!! That type of attitude by the public has been missing for the last few years and personally I hold the government responsible for that!! It's their job to get us behind the troops and they have failed miserably at that. Maybe if the left would put it's hatred for Bush aside for just a few minutes they could help us out with this task!!

Wishful thinking I know..

[sbenn]

I agree we do need to do things for the men and women serving our nation. Since you have been overseas can you tell us which programs are best to take part in the let them know we are behind them? Should we just write to the ones we know?

I looked at the site, www.freedomdefended.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47 and his article is great. It is more about helping Fred become president and helping Fred have the back-up support that he had when he was in Iraq. That makes sense to me. So let's be Straight Forward and figure out how to help Fred!

[junebug]

Let the GOP continue to feel it's pain. A poor man named Jeffrey got an earful from me yesterday when he called on behalf of the GOP requesting that we renew our membership. I know he's trained to respond to frustrated constituents like me, but still it was fun to hear what he came up with. At the start of the conversation he asked for $300, by the time we were done he was asking for $50. He didn't get a cent. But I did encourage him to call back so we could chat again. I'm writing another letter to Mike Duncan.

[thompson]

At least a MONTH before Iowa, the RNC calls me asking for money. I had to get the guy's supervisor on the phone to let him know how annoyed I was that I wanted to wait to see who the nominee was before donating. The caller wouldn't take NO for an answer and kept pushing me. I can just imagine how they are now...

[brianb]

They don't call me any more. Of course I'm no longer a registered republican, but that hasn't trickled through the system, because I just made that change after Super Tuesday. But, the last call I got from them was right after Suepr Tuesday. And, I politely informed the young gentlemen on the phone that the RNC would get money from me again when the RNC started representing my political views again...and he actually asked me "what do you mean by that?" and I said, "the fact that you even have to ask that question is reason enough for me not to give any money to the RNC. I'm a conservative. What I thought the republican party was supposed to be, but that is so evidently not so now. Good day."

[sbenn]

Good answer BrianB! We need to make our beliefs and frustrations known. They need to know that they have to support us for us to be expected to support them!

[creationist]

Here is some "straight talk" against the Straight Talk Express (John McCain). None of the McCain stuff is surprising, but it's a slap in the faces of Christians.

www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59187

I wish more people would respect Alan Keyes for his individual convictions and Biblical understanding and attitude. Alan Keyes was recently at the Republicans' conservative conference (I forgot the name), in which McCain avoided talking about the controversial stuff, and Alan Keyes was disgusted with the way the meeting was just about selling McCain to Republicans and doing some effective "advertising" (to expound on the metaphor) to get McCain elected. I don't know if Keyes threatened to or actually did it, but what I read was that he was going to leave the Republican Party.