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Post by creationist on Sept 26, 2008 14:29:55 GMT -5
I recall one of the big exaggerations about John McCain which Fred made in the speech. It went something like: "When people in the future look back at this period, they'll look at the presidency of John McCain and say 'Here was a man who valued his country above all else', one of our greatest leaders". Perhaps the reason Fred Thompson is "in and out" so much is so that he will not seem to be peddling McCain to people. He'll seem like he defends McCain when the occasion arises, but not that he really was in league with McCain all the way along. Fred criticized McCain and Ron Paul very little. He criticized McCain very little because he was probably trying to be a channel for desperate conservatives. When conservatives started trusting Fred, he would have to drop out of the race and make room for McCain, then later endorse McCain when people's hopes had died down a little. The timing of that endorsement came right after McCain's "Super Tuesday" victories, so that it would look like Fred wanted "the unity of the party". I think I've underestimated the influence Fred's endorsement of McCain has had on calming down conservatives. Fred said nothing about the Federal Reserve, and probably the reason he didn't attack Ron Paul more was because Ron Paul would have given good answers if Fred had criticized his policy toward the Fed. Not that Fred necessarily would defend the Fed, but their ideas about the economy seemed very different; I'd have to say Ron Paul is more knowledgeable, though.
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Post by krell on Sept 26, 2008 16:00:43 GMT -5
I would have to agree to a lot of that. For someone who is suppose to believe so strongly in First Principles and the rule of law, I find it interesting that Fred never once spoke of the fraudulent 16th Amendment. Fred never spoke on how the Federal Reserve is not owned by the government of the United States but by a European Banking cartel. He never spoke about how the Federal Government hires the Federal Reserve to print fiat currency.
For a guy that is suppose to be so Constitutionally knowledgeable he sure hasn't spoken out much on how this self-serving government has worked to destroy the Constitution.
I guess, from one CFR member to another, Fred is obligated to endorse McCain.
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Post by creationist on Sept 28, 2008 1:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by bradwisconsin on Sept 28, 2008 13:47:01 GMT -5
Like it or not we live in a global economy. When you have companies that do business worldwide you have to be aware of what is happening economically in those countries. The economy and the UN are two separate issues.
Whether you like McCain or not at least he puts his ideas (even if they are bad) out there.
As for Fred I again didn't see much enthusiasm at least not what I would expect from someone who fully supports a candidate. Perhaps STAND STRONG meant looking past some actions that may have to be taken short term like his support (lackluster) of McCain.
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Post by creationist on Sept 28, 2008 13:57:57 GMT -5
I guess you do have a point about the UN being different than a global economy. The statement was alarming to me because I admittedly have been watching for "one-worlder" statements from Fred, especially after he said "Let us salute him" about McCain, in true Nazi fashion.
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Post by creationist on Oct 6, 2008 15:42:51 GMT -5
When I hear Palin, she sounds so energetic and enthusiastic, but why is it that she always sounds so phony to me? She seems like such a glamor girl to me.
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Post by bradwisconsin on Oct 6, 2008 16:22:08 GMT -5
Whether you agree with his actions or not is he not a veteran? And aren't veterans saluted for their service? Could it be too much being read into the statement?
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Post by sbenn on Oct 6, 2008 18:36:17 GMT -5
When I hear Palin, she sounds so energetic and enthusiastic, but why is it that she always sounds so phony to me? She seems like such a glamor girl to me. Although I usually agree with you, I just cannot agree. She has a very high approval rate in her home state as governor and that does not come from being a glamor girl. Her bangs are a little too long, and she looks to ordinary, even wearing glasses instead of contacts to be trying to be a glamor girl. Palin lives her beliefs on right to life in her own life. She plainly said in the debate she is against same sex marriage. She lowered taxes in Alaska. She has not been campaigning for over a year like the others and that is why she can be energetic and enthusiastic. She feels she can make a difference and that excites her. I just wish she were Fred's running mate but I have to give McCain credit for picking her!
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Post by creationist on Oct 6, 2008 19:05:10 GMT -5
It's really not worth arguing over anyway. It's the House, Senate, and local governments that matter!
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Post by George W on Oct 6, 2008 19:05:49 GMT -5
When I hear Palin, she sounds so energetic and enthusiastic, but why is it that she always sounds so phony to me? She seems like such a glamor girl to me. Although I usually agree with you, I just cannot agree. She has a very high approval rate in her home state as governor and that does not come from being a glamor girl. Her bangs are a little too long, and she looks to ordinary, even wearing glasses instead of contacts to be trying to be a glamor girl. Palin lives her beliefs on right to life in her own life. She plainly said in the debate she is against same sex marriage. She lowered taxes in Alaska. She has not been campaigning for over a year like the others and that is why she can be energetic and enthusiastic. She feels she can make a difference and that excites her. I just wish she were Fred's running mate but I have to give McCain credit for picking her! That's why we put her on the tic it. Sum one gotta help John hold onto to the Republicrat Matrix in Washington. Without her on the tic it John was gonna blow it with his anti-first and second Amendment stance, his support of embryonic stem-cell research, his wavering on accepting gay marriage/not accepting gay marriage, his amnesty for illegal aliens, wanting to throw open the borders to all illegals, and his furthering the CFR induced North American Union. The ignorant masses will vote for John because they are stupid enough to believe Palin will have anything to do with his agenda. Idiots cannot see that Sarah is only helping the CFR. Like Palin is going to impact anything McCain and his cronies do. Here’s a shovel to help you bury your head.
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Post by creationist on Oct 6, 2008 19:09:24 GMT -5
Mr. Bush, did you read a lot of Bertrand Russell?
"There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action." -- Bertrand Russell
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Post by George W on Oct 7, 2008 10:24:21 GMT -5
Mr. Bush, did you read a lot of Bertrand Russell? "There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action." -- Bertrand Russell Yeah. Okay smarty pants. I like beer. I'm a good ole boy.
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Post by rayman on Oct 7, 2008 18:03:23 GMT -5
Mr. Bush, did you read a lot of Bertrand Russell? "There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action." -- Bertrand Russell Yeah. Okay smarty pants. I like beer. I'm a good ole boy. Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, wait a minute now!!!! I resemble that remark.
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Post by creationist on Oct 16, 2008 21:36:44 GMT -5
It's very bizarre to me how infrequently Fred Thompson goes public, and yet, when he does, he delivers two incongruous messages: the Democrats want to socialize the nation and give in to terrorists, and John McCain will help America stay strong.
The hypocrisy in that remains startling to me.
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Post by bradwisconsin on Oct 16, 2008 22:17:32 GMT -5
The reason for the infrequency is likely due to the support not being strong. Besides if McCain had Fred at the rallies people would drown out his message with chants of "Fred!".
As for socialize - just look at the statements of Barney & friends. Even Obama has heavily mentioned redistribution of wealth. (ie socialism)
McCain realizes now I think that he needs conservatives so ...
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