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Post by rinoHUNTER on Sept 2, 2008 10:22:13 GMT -5
All short term HYPE. Continued controversy. Superficial. In the end she will be labeled as totally unqualified to step in as President. The "dems" and indies are voting in record numbers. Who voted for McCain in the primaries? McCain may win, but, it will likely be by the CFR controlled electoral college, not by popular vote. This would set off turmoil like never before. Please excuse me for not sharing the excitement with Juan's VP pick. This is a pivotal point in time for conservatism, and Juan is NO CONSERVATIVE. I would like nothing more than to see the treasonous media and the CFR truly exposed, and the sheeple wake up. But, McCain is no prize. Unless you are excited about amnesty, cap and trade, and the NAU. I am still amazed at the conservatives who won't vote for McCain, but will for Palin. I reckon it gives them the chance to vote against oblahma. Bottom line is and always will be, we don't elect the President.
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Post by thompson on Sept 2, 2008 11:36:23 GMT -5
Saying that I agree with someone, such as Rush, means that my views are similar to those he proclaims. Meaning - in my own words, as I've been telling my friends all weekend, that Obama is probably cleaning out his pants after hearing the announcement trying to figure out what to do.
Democrats are upset that Hilary did not get the nomination, was not picked for VP - and not even considered. McCain then nominates a woman, and a conservative. The charges the democrats make against republicans - calling us sexist has no merit any more since a woman is on the ticket. I think this pick makes McCain easier to support for conservatives and the moderate liberals.
One thing we must keep in mind - the president doesn't legislate - but he does have a lot of influence. McCain may claim he has certain stances on issues such as criminal aliens, but I think his motivation is tied more to his own ego than to specifics in an immigration policy.
Palin as the VP pick is great for conservatives because - if for this reason only - it propels Sarah Palin into the national spotlight as a Pro-Life, Conservative, Anti-Corruption, Republican woman. With her being a mere , what 44?, this sets the stage for her to run for President. Not only that - but it also reaffirms the GOP commitment to keep conservatives in the party.
Rinohunter - try, and I do mean TRY, to have a wee bit of optimism here?
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Post by fredheadbill on Sept 2, 2008 12:48:08 GMT -5
I've fell in love with Palin because she is normal....but this article made me realize that that she is what we have been looking for.
Talk vs. Action Obama vs. Palin.
By Dinesh D'Souza
So let’s compare. Sarah Palin has a 17-year-old daughter who is pregnant. Does this mean that Sarah Palin is a hypocrite for championing family values? Does this make her a bad parent?
Here is what Palin has to say about the matter: “We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart. . . . Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of love and adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional support.” This to me is the true humble and Christian response. No one is perfect. And there are consequences for actions which each person has to live with. Even so, parents can admire the young girl’s decision not to take the easy way out and have an abortion. The Palins love their daughter unconditionally, and accept the grandchild unreservedly. I predict that this will strengthen Palin’s support both with evangelical Christians and with the American people.
Now let’s contrast Palin’s behavior with that of Barack Obama. Here is Obama, from his speech at the Democratic National Convention. “It’s not because John McCain doesn’t care. It’s because John McCain doesn’t get it.” Obama faulted McCain for his cruel and insensitive philosophy, which he defined this way: “Out of work? Tough luck. No health care. The market will fix it. Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your boot straps, even if you don’t have boots. You’re on your own.”
Obama regularly distances himself from this philosophy. In his interview with pastor Rick Warren, Obama said his favorite passage in the Bible is the one where Jesus says: whatever you do to the least of my brethren, that you do unto me. Obama insisted that these are the ideals that have guided his life and the ones that he would bring to the Oval Office.
Now how can Obama’s self-description be reconciled with news reports that Obama’s youngest half-brother lives in a hut in a shanty town on the outskirts of Nairobi? Twenty-six-year-old George Hussein Onyango Obama told Vanity Fair, “No one knows who I am. I live here on less than a dollar a month.” George Obama’s shack measures six feet by ten feet, and yet he says that Barack Obama has done nothing to reach out to him or to help him. “I live like a recluse. If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related. I am ashamed.” So far what has Barack Obama said about his half-brother? Absolutely nothing. Obama’s supporters, in attempting to cover for Obama, have basically accused the young half-brother of trying to benefit from Obama’s success. They say Obama doesn’t owe his sibling a thing. In other words, the Obama camp has a message for George Obama: “Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, even if you don’t have boots. You’re on your own.”
Could there be a more striking contrast between Palin’s loving approach to her family and Obama’s callous rejection of his own brother? The media seems to be implying that Palin is hypocritical because she stands for “family values” while her daughter is pregnant out of wedlock. But parents don’t have full control over their teenagers’ actions. Moreover, isn’t Obama an even bigger hypocrite for championing aid to the down-and-out while his own sibling lives in an African hut on pennies a day? By the way, the Obamas made several million dollars last year. They are certainly in a position to relieve George Obama’s condition if they cared enough.
The major newspapers and networks know about George, and they seem to recognize how damaging this story is for their favorite presidential candidate. So they are not reporting it, even though it is one of the most revealing stories about the candidate’s character. And thus, as the GOP convention gets under way, we have the ridiculous spectacle of Obama getting credit for talking about compassion while Palin gets criticized for practicing it.
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Post by thompson on Sept 2, 2008 15:03:50 GMT -5
Family values in action. Don't forget, some time ago, Obama said that he "wouldn't punish" his daughter with having a baby (instead of an abortion) Two things I draw from this event with the 17 yr old expectant mother - her parents raised her properly enough to take responsibility for her own actions without being "punished" by raising a child. She also recognizes the value of life. It seems that the Palins have done well in raising their daughter and setting a great example by being able to support her and be there for her, unconditionally. To Obama - he considers not killing the baby to be a punishment. It seems that every attack on Palin is backfiring on the Obama campaign. Great article by the way... Update: Dr. Laura's blog on this issue - she uses the same quote I did from Obama - only in more detail and she dislikes the fact there are two working parents.... etc... www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-and-motherhood/
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 18:35:10 GMT -5
All short term HYPE. Continued controversy. Superficial. In the end she will be labeled as totally unqualified to step in as President. The "dems" and indies are voting in record numbers. Who voted for McCain in the primaries? McCain may win, but, it will likely be by the CFR controlled electoral college, not by popular vote. This would set off turmoil like never before. Please excuse me for not sharing the excitement with Juan's VP pick. This is a pivotal point in time for conservatism, and Juan is NO CONSERVATIVE. I would like nothing more than to see the treasonous media and the CFR truly exposed, and the sheeple wake up. But, McCain is no prize. Unless you are excited about amnesty, cap and trade, and the NAU. I am still amazed at the conservatives who won't vote for McCain, but will for Palin. I reckon it gives them the chance to vote against oblahma. Bottom line is and always will be, we don't elect the President. RinoHUNTER, why does Fred, in all his recent public statements, praise McCain as a man of integrity?
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 18:37:26 GMT -5
Since when does a conservative VP make it acceptable to vote for a traitor as Pres.?
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Sept 2, 2008 19:52:40 GMT -5
All short term HYPE. Continued controversy. Superficial. In the end she will be labeled as totally unqualified to step in as President. The "dems" and indies are voting in record numbers. Who voted for McCain in the primaries? McCain may win, but, it will likely be by the CFR controlled electoral college, not by popular vote. This would set off turmoil like never before. Please excuse me for not sharing the excitement with Juan's VP pick. This is a pivotal point in time for conservatism, and Juan is NO CONSERVATIVE. I would like nothing more than to see the treasonous media and the CFR truly exposed, and the sheeple wake up. But, McCain is no prize. Unless you are excited about amnesty, cap and trade, and the NAU. I am still amazed at the conservatives who won't vote for McCain, but will for Palin. I reckon it gives them the chance to vote against oblahma. Bottom line is and always will be, we don't elect the President. RinoHUNTER, why does Fred, in all his recent public statements, praise McCain as a man of integrity? I received a thank you note from Bob Davis today, thanking us all for our efforts, and encouraging us to watch Fred tonight. All I can say is that Fred is a Republican, probably doing what he can for the party. He knows who oblahma is, and he knows who McCain is. He ran against McCain, and has said numerous times the best man for the job is no longer in the race. We ALL know he is against many of the stances McCain has taken on key issues. I cannot speak for Fred, but I do feel he has always expected us to think for ourselves, and trusted that we can make our minds up according to our own beliefs and convictions. Some of us appear to be willing to support McCain, with Palin as VP, mostly. Is it any secret that McCain is not a conservative? No. Is it any wonder that Fred feels strongly that the Republican Party must retain the White House, despite the fact that McCain is a horrible nominee? No. I wish I could "pull the lever" for McCain, but I cannot. I cannot find any optimism either, in a McCain presidency, as I am looking behind the scenes, beyond the hype and spin, and thinking of the underlying damage McCain can and probably will do during his term. But, I do see hope for the future with informed Americans fighting for their country, with fredpac, and with the continuation of Founding Principles being spread to the people who would otherwise not be hearing the message. So I Stand Strong, for my beliefs, and my convictions. I am proud to live in a country where I am free to speak my mind, and work toward keeping that freedom alive. I Stand Strong for the millions of heroes who have given their lives, so that I may be free. I Stand Strong for my nephews, who miss their father, who is still serving his country, stationed in Korea. I Stand Strong, for the future, and I will continue to fight for what I believe in, and will never let up. Life is a gift, but Liberty is a responsibility, that I take seriously. I Stand Strong, for our country, and for all Americans who expect to remain free, living under God, with Liberty and Justice for ALL. And finally, I Stand Strong against those who would distort our Constitution, and work against our Bill of Rights. Against the corporate raiders who along with the "elite" would trade our sovereignty for money and power over the people. I Stand Strong against the CFR, the controlling entity that cares not, about you or I, or our country. I Stand Strong against any form of tyranny or oppression in our land. Let us all put aside our differences of opinion, and agree that we need now, more than ever, to be diligent in learning what it is that affects our country adversely, and get busy working together to defeat that aspect of treason that seeks to take us down as a nation. It is the truth that matters most. And the truth is that there are indeed those who do not have We The People at heart. Those who would sell us out, for what ever reason. Who ever they may be. They are out there, and I doubt that any of us are unaware of that fact. The answer to the treason, the betrayal, and the loss of liberty that accompanies such, is and has always been We The People. We are, all of us, We The People. May God bless, and favor our endeavors! United, We Stand, Strong...
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 20:03:29 GMT -5
What a fine response, rinoHUNTER. I don't think any of us need to pretend that we DON'T FEEL BETRAYED, but your words are unifying. I've often thought about how we can find the right "angle" to wake up the conservative sheeple who listen to Rush. I know we're all doing what we can and where we can; that's all that matters. I fear the machinations of a McCain presidency, but today I decided that I would not be discouraged by that.
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Post by krell on Sept 2, 2008 21:03:32 GMT -5
Blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of phoney caca.
Be sure to tune into CNN later to hear Jesse Ventura from a Conservative conference going on just down the street from the McShame dog and pony show.
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Post by sbenn on Sept 2, 2008 22:12:59 GMT -5
RinoHunter, thank you for your beautiful show of patriotism. If Fred could of had you as a speech writer, the best man for the job may have been running against Obama. Let's let this go and work together for the Republicans. Can we find the races where strong conservatives are struggling to win and throw in our support behind them? There are so many ways we can help even if it is just using a brains and fingers to type in support for them on blogs, e-mails and letters. Tell us who needs help most and even far away we can do something!
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Post by krell on Sept 2, 2008 22:17:07 GMT -5
All I saw Fred Thompson do tonight is stand strong for the status quo.
Sbenn, that's exactly what we have been preaching to people for months. Defeat the presidential dog and pony show by blogging on conservative campaign sites across the country for at least moral support.
Fred is done for sure, now and in the future. It's time to find and support true conservatives that do not abandon their principles for party. Read up on George Washington's farewell address.
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 22:27:50 GMT -5
All I can say is that the Republican Party is corrupt, and people need to get out of their fantasy-lands.
You can think Eisenhower and William F. Buckley for doing the bulk of the job of destroying the party. And John McCain.
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Sept 2, 2008 22:43:55 GMT -5
All I saw Fred Thompson do tonight is stand strong for the status quo. Sbenn, that's exactly what we have been preaching to people for months. Defeat the presidential dog and pony show by blogging on conservative campaign sites across the country for at least moral support. Fred is done for sure, now and in the future. It's time to find and support true conservatives that do not abandon their principles for party. Read up on George Washington's farewell address. I have to respectfully disagree. Sure, only time will tell, but I believe Fred will be proven as the one true conservative, despite the total crap I feel his backing of McLiar is. Anyone that pays attention, probably realizes that we stand very little chance of a McLiar presidency. Dims and indies are voting in record numbers and oblahma is at 50% in the crap polls. Maybe the CFR will "appoint" McLiar the winner, but time will prove that truth matters most when it comes to people "leading" this country, IF WE ALL KEEP BUSY AS PATRIOTIC ACTIVISTS, UNAFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE TREASON UPON US. The sheeple that claim to be conservatives will wake up when McLiar loses and that will expose the real reasons why he lost. Conservatism only wins when it is genuine, and that includes no reach across the aisle into liberal freakshow land. Hot tempers are good, with direction!!! Man, do I have a headache.
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Post by strat on Sept 2, 2008 22:58:39 GMT -5
All I saw Fred Thompson do tonight is stand strong for the status quo. Sbenn, that's exactly what we have been preaching to people for months. Defeat the presidential dog and pony show by blogging on conservative campaign sites across the country for at least moral support. Fred is done for sure, now and in the future. It's time to find and support true conservatives that do not abandon their principles for party. Read up on George Washington's farewell address. I have to respectfully disagree. Sure, only time will tell, but I believe Fred will be proven as the one true conservative, despite the total crap I feel his backing of McLiar is. Anyone that pays attention, probably realizes that we stand very little chance of a McLiar presidency. Dims and indies are voting in record numbers and oblahma is at 50% in the crap polls. Maybe the CFR will "appoint" McLiar the winner, but time will prove that truth matters most when it comes to people "leading" this country, IF WE ALL KEEP BUSY AS PATRIOTIC ACTIVISTS, UNAFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE TREASON UPON US. The sheeple that claim to be conservatives will wake up when McLiar loses and that will expose the real reasons why he lost. Conservatism only wins when it is genuine, and that includes no reach across the aisle into liberal freakshow land. Hot tempers are good, with direction!!! And I must disagree with you.Even though McCain is Fred's friend Fred should have declined to speak instead of fawning for the man. Fred stood for politics as normal on prime time, where more damage was done for Conservatives than good. As you said time will tell, but I'm out of time for Fred and the Republican Party. I will vote for the person that matches my view regardless of party. I am done throwing my vote away by voting against the other guy.
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 23:02:51 GMT -5
A long time ago (it seems like), I wrote Sam Brownback off because he said McCain is a man of character. I should have asked myself just as much about why Fred would say the same. I am trying to form a complete picture of the situation without complete knowledge. RinoHUNTER detected a hesitance to support McCain, so that has some bearing. But how is it the right thing to do to support McCain at all costs?
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