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Post by creationist on Aug 29, 2008 23:02:04 GMT -5
How would this VP pick of Sarah Palin actually hurt McCain, rinoHUNTER?
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Post by thompson on Aug 30, 2008 2:15:12 GMT -5
yeah, rinohunter, what do you mean by this:
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Post by sbenn on Aug 30, 2008 9:44:40 GMT -5
I hope this isn't a joke doggone it. [glow=red,2,300]I have read a report of a man in Florida arrested for plot against Obama and a seperate report of 3 men plotting against Obama. EVERYBODY that really cares(on either side) is nauseated this time. So there prolly are some plans out for McRaza. Just a thought outta my twisted little grey matter, could those folks being arrested be people that are " PATRIOTS" that are actually trying to take back their country and willing to suffer whatever the cost. But MSM(controlled by gubment) will spin it into psychopathic lunatics that did it for Jodie Foster[/glow]? No true patriot would plot to do harm to a candidate. We believe in the Democratic system (NOT Democrats mind you) and we know that if enough conservatives go to the polls we can, over a period of time, take back our Nation. WE JUST HAVE TO WORK HARDER THAN EVER TO GET OUR CONSERVATITIVE CANDIDATES IN. WE CAN DO IT. [/move] Besides harm done to a candidate will just jump start their cause and make that cause grow.
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Post by bradwisconsin on Aug 30, 2008 13:40:11 GMT -5
Take into consideration that Fred and John are friends. Is it that hard to believe that Fred may have had some influence with this pick? We all know the way to take something back is to work from within - it's why some of us are constantly talking about staying in the Republican Party instead of jumping ship.
The same thing applies with taking back this country. While there is no doubt about the importance of the House and Senate races - another way to take this country back is to make sure we "patriots" have someone on our side a heartbeat away from the presidency. Fred may not have wanted the VP but he very well could have been working behind the scenes to stem the CFR influence in this election.
If wins McCain the election (and it could happen) this VP pick could out a major wrench in the "plans" of others. If Palin were to move up (a possibility considering John's age) enough is known about CFR that they could very well out for good.
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Aug 30, 2008 21:03:36 GMT -5
Palin is already under attack by the MSM. She is currently under two separate investigations for ethics violations in connection with the firing of Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan for refusing to fire a State Trooper alleged to have abused her sister, who was once married to the trooper. Palin, her husband and her staff are reported to have filed numerous complaints during the divorce and custody battle. The fact that the trooper formerly married to her sister is still a trooper will not help. This will be distorted to suit their needs, as will the statement of her being "a hockey mom", self admitted. The lack of Foreign Policy experience will be touted as the reason why she could never stack up to Big Mouth Biden, and that alone will be the fuel for much controversy over the next few weeks. We know the Left Wing Radical Media will not let the comparison between her and oblahma's experience matter, nothing can touch the "anointed one"... She will not bring in key states as perhaps Romney would have, and only part of the conservative base is being excited about her nomination. The rest are concerned that she is unknown, and over some of the other things mentioned in this post. She is unknown, which would be good in ways, if there weren't any recent "skeletons" in the closet. Don't get me wrong, I think she was probably protecting her sister for good reasons. I think she is probably a very good person, and a conservative against big government. But, I think she is a no name appeasement for the base to grasp as their reason for voting for McCain, and that this is all there is to it. I wouldn't vote for McCain if Fred himself was VP nominee, and Fred would not accept VP nominee if offered. That speaks volumes to me. Friend or not, Fred knows McCain is a horrible choice for the Republican nominee and he knows why. That is why he does no more than he does and would not accept VP, in my opinion. As I have said before, if my friend were running for POTUS, and I wanted them to win, I would be on tour every day working for such. Fred does not, and his acceptance of McCain is at best lukewarm, as I witnessed in person. This is why I question the pick. She will become the small town mayor instead of the short term governor. In the left stream media. She will drive some dims back to oblahma. I get the feeling that it is time for the CFR to do some more damage ala Jimmy Carter style. They will never let up, in their quest to socialize this nation for their own sick purpose. I could be wrong, and I am hoping at times that I am dead wrong. Even though I think McCain is just as bad as oblahma, because he is NOT to be trusted under any circumstance. Either way, regardless of who wins this "distraction" there are some ugly times on the way. When the race card is played yet again, it is stirring up some serious division among us... Why was McCain not vetting some real conservatives with great track records in true conservative FEDERAL government? There are many known names with some great accomplishments and quite a bit of experience in domestic and foreign policy that would have thoroughly excited the base in a solid and sincere way. You know? Inhofe, DeMint, Goode, King, Hunter... What gives?
In politics, things are seldom what they are "said" to be, or seem.
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Post by bradwisconsin on Aug 30, 2008 23:08:20 GMT -5
IMHO the reason we didn't see the "real conservative with a great track record" is that they turned him down. Guys like DeMint, Inhofe, etc know better than to be associated with McCain as his VP selection. Palin on the other hand really had nothing to lose. The "good men" could have realized the key was to try and influence behind the scene.
Interesting that while the campaign had talked to Palin over the last few months John didn't talk to her until last Sunday - after Biden was picked by "the chosen one".
The moonbat libs are already grasping at straws when it comes to Palin.
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Post by bradwisconsin on Aug 30, 2008 23:31:07 GMT -5
As for the ethics investigation she's fully cooperating and according to at least one comment I've seen on a blog she may have actually requested the investigation - have to do more looking into that to verify. Not trying to make a case for McCain but at least she's not trying to cover-up or deny things the way Obama does.
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Aug 31, 2008 1:29:03 GMT -5
IMHO the reason we didn't see the "real conservative with a great track record" is that they turned him down. Guys like DeMint, Inhofe, etc know better than to be associated with McCain as his VP selection. Palin on the other hand really had nothing to lose.
The "good men" could have realized the key was to try and influence behind the scene. Interesting that while the campaign had talked to Palin over the last few months John didn't talk to her until last Sunday - after Biden was picked by "the chosen one". The moonbat libs are already grasping at straws when it comes to Palin. Yeah they are, and that is what they do. And the moonbat followers of them will eat it up, as will many fence sitters. Spin, spin, spin. Bottom line is what I highlighted from your post, isn't it?John McCain is not a Conservative, or a Republican. He is an aisle crossing liberal loving plant, and he will most likely lose the popular vote. We have been getting our butts kicked in numbers anyway, as voters. Period. Sarah Palin is not running for POTUS, McCain is. Conservatism only wins when it is genuine. The truth is John McCain REALLY wanted Joe Lieberman. He spends plenty of time talking to him. Yet McCain's campaign says Palin was a personal fit? More like political.
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Post by melissamichigan on Aug 31, 2008 1:40:30 GMT -5
Uh, Mr. HUNTER..... if General Patton didn't do it for ya, how about Lech Walesa? ? I assure you, EVEN HE SLEPT!!!!!!!!! I promise you, THE UNION WILL SURVIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Melissa M
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Aug 31, 2008 1:43:05 GMT -5
Yeah? And just what are YOU doing up? ;D It is my understanding that Lech burned the midnight oil often!
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 8:05:51 GMT -5
www.infowars.com/?p=4278It's a clip from CNN. So many people are falling for McCain just because of his VP pick. And yet, if she is inexperienced regarding fighting McCain's beloved war on terror, she was clearly picked as bait for conservatives: for OTHER reasons. The excuses that McCain's spokesman gives are absurd; he starts by agreeing that Palin doesn't have experience in that area, then flips to saying that she DOES have experience in that area.
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Post by thompson on Sept 2, 2008 8:32:22 GMT -5
Rinohunter - I think anyone McCain picked as a running mate, save for a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT, the media was going to crucify, but then again, I think even if McCain did pick a liberal - they would have done it anyway. They are so in love with Obama that nothing else matters to the MSM.
I, for one, am glad that McCain picked Palin even though there are several people I would have preferred. Bottom line is this - the Obama's don't like the world the way it is, but KNOW the way it should be. I deal with the world the way it is, and make the best of what we have to work with.
I'm not going to criticize anyone for not wanting to vote for McCain, but I will disagree and criticize the reasons people are giving. I did hear Rush Limbaugh's take on this VP pick this morning - and agree that it was a very smart move on McCain's part politically. Like him or not, McCain did make a very smart choice that will likely give him the best chance of winning the election in November.
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Post by rinoHUNTER on Sept 2, 2008 8:45:06 GMT -5
Perhaps you can explain then, what makes this such a smart choice and how it gives him the best chance of winning the election. Or, are we just taking Rush Limbaugh's word?
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Post by creationist on Sept 2, 2008 9:10:15 GMT -5
I'm going to add to my list on why I know McCain is the intended next President:
1. Rothschild meeting in March 2. Rev. Wright destroyed the Democrats' unity 3. Hillary and Obama sparring made McCain look better 4. McCain's success at Rick Warren's farce before the 2008 Republican National Convention (which, BTW, is now the most militarized convention on record!!!) 5. Promises to drill in ANWR, making him immensely more appealing than Obama 6. Has half the popular vote, when Obama used to far surpass ANY Republican. 7. VP pick convinces hesitant people like Mark Levin and James Dobson to vocally support McCain, which in turn convinces thousands upon thousands of voters.
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Post by brianb on Sept 2, 2008 9:40:01 GMT -5
Perhaps you can explain then, what makes this such a smart choice and how it gives him the best chance of winning the election. Or, are we just taking Rush Limbaugh's word? The pick did one thing for sure. No one talked about Barry's speech after Friday morning did they? Nothing at all was said by anyone about because of McCain's pick. Say what you will..politically very astute move. No one was talking about the DNC Convention at all.
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